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	<title>K-Squared Ramblings &#187; java</title>
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		<title>Trying to update Java</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Annoyances]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Computers/Internet]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[java]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[norton]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The SANS Internet Storm Center remarks on the challenges of fixing Java vulnerabilities, since Sun&#8217;s installer only checks once a month by default&#8212;based on when you installed it, not on a standard schedule. Well, it&#8217;s worse than that. My Windows &#8230; <a href="http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2005/12/trying-to-update-java/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SANS Internet Storm Center remarks on the <a href="http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=909">challenges of fixing Java vulnerabilities</a>, since Sun&#8217;s installer only checks once a month by default&#8212;based on when you installed it, not on a standard schedule.</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s worse than that.  My Windows 2000 box at work was easy.  I just went into Control Panel, opened the Java Plugin, and told it to update.  At home, on our Windows XP box, I had to go through multiple reboots just to get the installer started.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t XP that was the problem, though:  It was Norton Internet Security.  First it disabled all network access from Firefox when I installed the new version.  Then it blocked access to the Java updater, so whenever I clicked on &#8220;Install&#8221; it would just disappear instead of launching the installer.  I resolved it (for now) by disabling Norton while I did the install&#8230;but I had to reboot in order to get as far as the first step again.</p>
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		<title>Cross-browser Java Spyware</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Browsers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[browser]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Firefox]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[IE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[java]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talk about convoluted. Someone has developed a Java applet that will use one browser to install spyware on another. The applet runs in any browser using the Sun Java Runtime Environment&#8212;Firefox, Opera, Mozilla, etc.&#8212;and if it can convince you to &#8230; <a href="http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2005/03/cross-browser-java-spyware/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about convoluted.  Someone has developed a Java applet that will <a href="http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/03/11/alternative_slimeware/">use one browser to install spyware on another</a>.  The applet runs in any browser using the Sun Java Runtime Environment&#8212;Firefox, Opera, Mozilla, etc.&#8212;and if it can convince you to run the installer, it will install spyware <em>on Internet Explorer</em>.  And since you can&#8217;t remove Internet Explorer from Windows (you can hide it, but it&#8217;s always there&#8230;waiting), just using an alternative browser isn&#8217;t enough to protect you.</p>
<p>Of course, the obvious solution here is <strong>don&#8217;t let it install anything</strong>.  That&#8217;s what the Java sandbox is for, after all: applets run in their own little world and can&#8217;t touch the rest of your system unless you let them (or they find a hole in the sandbox, which is why you need to keep Java up to date&#8212;just like everything else).</p>
<p>Time to emphasize the fact that while Firefox is still safer than IE, it&#8217;s not a magic bullet.  <strong>There is no magic bullet</strong>.  You can minimize risk, but never eliminate it.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?date=2005-03-15">via SANS Internet Storm Center</a>)</p>
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