Comments on: Suggestions Wanted: Alternative Browser Alliance Relaunch

By: G Barr

G Barr — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:02:53 +0000

Hi,

As a user it is great that there are are choice of bowsers on the market. However, as a web designer/developer the differing standards are a pain, as many of you out there know. The point to remember as a developer the IE is still the largest browse in use and will probably remain so as long as mcrosoft dominate the PC software market. Do not believe all the stats ot there, just think of the average Joe who buys a pre-installed PC. The majority don’t even know what their IE is a browser, just that it takes them in to the Internet. More has to be done by W3C to push for a standard browse implimination.

regards
George

By: Alternative Browser Alliance Update | K-Squared Ramblings

Alternative Browser Alliance Update | K-Squared Ramblings — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:34:53 +0000

[...] still hope to do that major rewrite, but this should bring it mostly [...]

By: Gérard Talbot

Gérard Talbot — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:54:26 +0000

Hello Kelson,

I strongly believe that the “why” section should address the bugs situation in IE 6 and IE 7 and their respective web standards compliance. IE 8 will be more compliant but – and this is important to note – will not reach the level of compliance of Firefox 3.0.3 and Opera 9.61. Some of the IE bugs I filed have been recently closed as postponed. And we also know that IE 8 will not support DOM 2 Events.

“There was almost no innovation from 2001 through 2004″
To be precise: there was no innovation or development at all between October 2001 to June 2004.

On the “detect capabilities” subject, you should provide at least 1 link.
Possible choices:

Developing Cross Browser/Cross Platform Pages
Using Object/Feature support detection approach: best and overall most reliable
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_Web_Standards_in_your_Web_Pages/Developing_Cross_Browser%2f%2fCross_Platform_Pages#Using_Object.2fFeature_support_detection_approach.3a_best_and_overall_most_reliable

A Strategy That Works: Object/Feature Detecting by comp.lang.javascript newsgroup FAQ notes
http://jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/not_browser_detect.html#bdFD
Browser detection – No; Object detection – Yes by Peter-Paul Koch
http://www.quirksmode.org/js/support.html

Any Linux-capable browser is good, so I am not sure what would be the point of listing Linux browsers.

By the way, Konqueror 4.x is available for windows:
http://windows.kde.org/

Regards, Gérard

By: Kelson

Kelson — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:20:46 +0000

Thanks for the suggestion. K-Meleon is actually already on the list, and has been since the site launched three years ago.

By: app

app — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:58:29 +0000

Please add K-Meleon (Firefox without the bloat) to your browser list. It's a lightweight gecko based browser made specifically for old slow PC's that can't run anything better than an old outdated version of Windows (can run on an old 486 with 32mb ram & Win95 or NT4!) The developers have made a commitment not to abandon the owners of these old computers, unlike how most other browser developers already have. I wrote a review about the browser last year and published it on my Snailware blog, if you are interested in a user opinion and perspective.