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Suggestions Wanted: Alternative Browser Alliance Relaunch

September 24th, 2008 by Kelson. Posted in Web and tagged for , , ,

You may have seen my website, the Alternative Browser Alliance. I put it together in 2005, when flame wars between Opera users and Firefox users were at their height, to show that we shared a common goal: opening the web. The most popular page on the site is a list of web browsers, which is linked as a resource from a number of sites and also gets a steady stream of traffic from people searching for alternative browsers.

Of course, things have changed a lot since 2005, so I’m planning an overhaul of the whole site.

Definite plans include:

  • Reflect the current state of web browser marketshare & technologies.
  • List new tools, such as Dragonfly and Firebug.
  • Update the list of browsers. (Add Chrome, figure out whether anyone uses Galeon anymore, etc.)
  • More button/banner sizes.
  • Release the whole thing under a Creative Commons license so that it’s easier for people to do translations.

I’m considering adding a blog for browser-related commentary. This would have to be low-frequency, comparable to something like css3.info, or I would have to bring other people in, because I just won’t have time to keep it updated regularly. On the downside, it adds a layer of software complexity. Also, I’m not sure it would add anything to all the blogs out there that currently focus on browser news.

I’d appreciate any suggestions from the general web user, developer, and browser fan communities.

Thanks in advance!

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  1. 3 Responses to “Suggestions Wanted: Alternative Browser Alliance Relaunch”

  2. By app on Oct 21, 2008

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    Please add K-Meleon (Firefox without the bloat) to your browser list. It’s a lightweight gecko based browser made specifically for old slow PC’s that can’t run anything better than an old outdated version of Windows (can run on an old 486 with 32mb ram & Win95 or NT4!)

    The developers have made a commitment not to abandon the owners of these old computers, unlike how most other browser developers already have.

    I wrote a review about the browser last year and published it on my Snailware blog, if you are interested in a user opinion and perspective.

  3. By Kelson on Oct 22, 2008

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    Thanks for the suggestion. K-Meleon is actually already on the list, and has been since the site launched three years ago.

  4. By Gérard Talbot on Oct 24, 2008

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    Hello Kelson,

    I strongly believe that the “why” section should address the bugs situation in IE 6 and IE 7 and their respective web standards compliance. IE 8 will be more compliant but - and this is important to note - will not reach the level of compliance of Firefox 3.0.3 and Opera 9.61. Some of the IE bugs I filed have been recently closed as postponed. And we also know that IE 8 will not support DOM 2 Events.

    “There was almost no innovation from 2001 through 2004″
    To be precise: there was no innovation or development at all between October 2001 to June 2004.

    On the “detect capabilities” subject, you should provide at least 1 link.
    Possible choices:

    Developing Cross Browser/Cross Platform Pages
    Using Object/Feature support detection approach: best and overall most reliable
    https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_Web_Standards_in_your_Web_Pages/Developing_Cross_Browser%2f%2fCross_Platform_Pages#Using_Object.2fFeature_support_detection_approach.3a_best_and_overall_most_reliable

    A Strategy That Works: Object/Feature Detecting by comp.lang.javascript newsgroup FAQ notes
    http://jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/not_browser_detect.html#bdFD
    Browser detection - No; Object detection - Yes by Peter-Paul Koch
    http://www.quirksmode.org/js/support.html

    Any Linux-capable browser is good, so I am not sure what would be the point of listing Linux browsers.

    By the way, Konqueror 4.x is available for windows:
    http://windows.kde.org/

    Regards, Gérard

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