Comments on: Trekking to the fridge http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/ Sci-fi, comics, humor, photos...it's all fair game. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:03:41 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Todd Derscheid http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-1028 Todd Derscheid Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:23:30 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-1028 "Neelix, the obnoxious pep-talker; Kim, the timid newbie; Kes, the wide-eyed child." There you go, all those characters sucked, and watching them gave me physical pain. “Neelix, the obnoxious pep-talker; Kim, the timid newbie; Kes, the wide-eyed child.” There you go, all those characters sucked, and watching them gave me physical pain.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-510 Kizi Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:10:44 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-510 The Borg are a crass copy of the Cybermen. The Borg are a crass copy of the Cybermen.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-509 Daniel Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:09:02 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-509 1. The holographic Doctor--Yes, at first, and only occasionally thereafter, but the writers did a poor job of developing his character, so he was basically little more than the same schtick every time he showed up. Neurotic Data with more ego and less intellect. 2. Janeway--In concept, yes. In execution, no. Ultimately, she was little more than the person who made the decisions. 3. The Borg--They were much scarier in Next Gen. 4. Seven of Nine--No argument there. 5. The crew--This was perhaps the worst written crew of any Star Trek show ever. They were all simplistic and one dimensional cliches. Janeway, the bossy captain; Chakotay, the level-headed first officer; Paris, the thrill-seeking pilot; Torres, the temperamental Klingon; Doctor, the curmudgeonly doctor; Tuvok, the serious Vulcan; Neelix, the obnoxious pep-talker; Kim, the timid newbie; Kes, the wide-eyed child. Blah. Even when these characters "developed," it was from one simple cliche to another. Boring boring boring. 1. The holographic Doctor–Yes, at first, and only occasionally thereafter, but the writers did a poor job of developing his character, so he was basically little more than the same schtick every time he showed up. Neurotic Data with more ego and less intellect.

2. Janeway–In concept, yes. In execution, no. Ultimately, she was little more than the person who made the decisions.

3. The Borg–They were much scarier in Next Gen.

4. Seven of Nine–No argument there.

5. The crew–This was perhaps the worst written crew of any Star Trek show ever. They were all simplistic and one dimensional cliches. Janeway, the bossy captain; Chakotay, the level-headed first officer; Paris, the thrill-seeking pilot; Torres, the temperamental Klingon; Doctor, the curmudgeonly doctor; Tuvok, the serious Vulcan; Neelix, the obnoxious pep-talker; Kim, the timid newbie; Kes, the wide-eyed child. Blah. Even when these characters “developed,” it was from one simple cliche to another. Boring boring boring.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-499 Kizi Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:33:10 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-499 Reasons to like Voyager: 1. The holographic Doctor. 2. Janeway 3. The Borg 4. Seven of Nine 5. The crew 6. Err Reasons to like Voyager:

1. The holographic Doctor.
2. Janeway
3. The Borg
4. Seven of Nine
5. The crew
6. Err

]]> By: Daniel http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-496 Daniel Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:41:44 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-496 Seven of Nine was fun to look at. Seven of Nine was fun to look at.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-493 Kizi Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:11:11 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-493 Well, I sat down and tried to think of something good about Voyager. I couldn't. Well, I sat down and tried to think of something good about Voyager. I couldn’t.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-489 Daniel Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:20:05 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-489 That's not saying much. That’s not saying much.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-488 Kizi Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:25:54 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-488 It's no worse than Enterprise. It’s no worse than Enterprise.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-486 Daniel Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:40:26 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-486 Well, for one thing, it wasn't interesting enough to compel you to watch the last three seasons. For another, the characters were simplistic and bland. As was the storytelling. Well, for one thing, it wasn’t interesting enough to compel you to watch the last three seasons.

For another, the characters were simplistic and bland. As was the storytelling.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-479 Kizi Wed, 25 Aug 2004 12:10:49 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-479 What's wrong with Voyager? (I haven't seen the last three seasons) What’s wrong with Voyager? (I haven’t seen the last three seasons)

]]> By: Daniel http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-478 Daniel Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:50:03 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-478 Okay. That's better. I guess the misunderstanding stems from the term "the formula," which is vague and doesn't really identify what part of the show you're talking about. By the way, Gene Roddenberry had nothing to do with Voyager. His contributions to Star Trek were higher quality. Okay. That’s better.

I guess the misunderstanding stems from the term “the formula,” which is vague and doesn’t really identify what part of the show you’re talking about.

By the way, Gene Roddenberry had nothing to do with Voyager. His contributions to Star Trek were higher quality.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-475 Kizi Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:17:43 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-475 You misunderstand me. My point is, if Gene Roddenberry made Farscape, you'd get Voyager. If the makers of Farscape made Voyager, you'd get Farscape. What makes Farscape brilliant and unique is not the formula itself, but the people who make it. You misunderstand me. My point is, if Gene Roddenberry made Farscape, you’d get Voyager. If the makers of Farscape made Voyager, you’d get Farscape. What makes Farscape brilliant and unique is not the formula itself, but the people who make it.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-474 Daniel Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:17:45 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-474 Voyager and Farscape have two things in common: 1. They take place on starships. 2. The crews are lost in space looking for home. That's it. They're much more different than the same, when it comes to character, plot, setting, pacing, costumes, special effects, make up, acting, directing, casting, you name it. What similarities there are between the shows are <i>trivial</i> and have practically nothing to do with what happens from one episode to the next. Pick ANY one episode of each show, compare the two, and you'll find the differences far outweigh the similarities. Voyager and Farscape have two things in common:

1. They take place on starships.
2. The crews are lost in space looking for home.

That’s it. They’re much more different than the same, when it comes to character, plot, setting, pacing, costumes, special effects, make up, acting, directing, casting, you name it. What similarities there are between the shows are trivial and have practically nothing to do with what happens from one episode to the next.

Pick ANY one episode of each show, compare the two, and you’ll find the differences far outweigh the similarities.

]]> By: Kizi http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-473 Kizi Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:57:57 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-473 That's what I mean. But to say that Farscape as a formula is any different from Voyager (which I haven't watched that devotedly either), just isn't true. That’s what I mean. But to say that Farscape as a formula is any different from Voyager (which I haven’t watched that devotedly either), just isn’t true.

]]> By: Kelson http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-470 Kelson Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:38:07 +0000 http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/archives/2004/05/06/trekking-to-the-fridge/#comment-470 I don't know. Thomas Kinkade and Salvador Dali both use paint, and both have painted landscapes, but the end results are vastly different. I only watched <i>Voyager</i> occasionally, but <i>Farscape</i> would regularly do things that no <i>Trek</i> would even consider. I don’t know. Thomas Kinkade and Salvador Dali both use paint, and both have painted landscapes, but the end results are vastly different.

I only watched Voyager occasionally, but Farscape would regularly do things that no Trek would even consider.

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