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		<title>By: Castle Farms</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2008/10/same-sex-marriage/#comment-45412</link>
		<dc:creator>Castle Farms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did The United States take 2 steps forward, or 2 steps back on November 4th?

Arizona Proposition 102: Ban on Gay Marriage
This measure would amend the state constitution so that only a union between one man and one woman would be valid or recognized as a marriage in the state. A similar measure was on the ballot in 2006 but failed.

Arkansas Initiative 1: Ban on Gay Couples Adopting Children
This measure would prohibit unmarried &quot;sexual partner(s)&quot; from adopting children or from serving as foster parents. The measure specifies that the prohibition applies to both opposite-sex as well as same-sex couples.

California Proposition 8: Ban on Gay Marriage
This measure would amend the state constitution to specify that only marriages between one man and one woman would be recognized as valid in the state. If passed, the measure would trump a May 2008 ruling by the California Supreme Court that legalized same-sex marriage.

Florida Amendment 2: Ban on Gay Marriage
This measure would amend the state constitution to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman. In order to amend the Florida constitution, 60 percent of voters must vote in favor of the amendment.

ll of the above PASSED!

Now, although I do agree that gay unions should have the same exact rights as straight unions, I&#039;m certainly not an activist and at the end of the day it doesn&#039;t directly affect me if someone gay can&#039;t marry some 18 year old twink. I&#039;m not an Afro-American rights activist either.  That doesn&#039;t mean I wouldn&#039;t have something to say if some state tried to amend their constitution to keep Afro-Americans out of public restrooms. It seems to me that far too many people fail to see the parallels there, that some of the same people who voted to deny gays rights would be appalled if there were an initiative on the ballot to deny Afro-American or a woman&#039;s rights.

Some people have asked me why I care,  My answer is why DON&#039;T you care? Why don&#039;t you care that state constitutions are being amended to restrict and deny rights? Why don&#039;t you care that discrimination and bigotry is being written into law? Why don&#039;t you care that our morality is being legislated? That dogma is becoming law? You know those &quot;Middle-Easterners&quot; everyone is so scared of? They&#039;re big on legislating their religion too.

I think everyone should care about this, even if you hate homosexuals, even if you&#039;re Fred Phelps, this is bad for all Americans. I&#039;m not sure how state constitutions differ from the US constitution, but I was under the impression that the intent and purpose was to protect and grant rights, not revoke and deny rights. There are supposedly protections in the US Constitution where the majority can&#039;t take away the rights of the minority. Not that it seems to matter anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did The United States take 2 steps forward, or 2 steps back on November 4th?</p>
<p>Arizona Proposition 102: Ban on Gay Marriage<br />
This measure would amend the state constitution so that only a union between one man and one woman would be valid or recognized as a marriage in the state. A similar measure was on the ballot in 2006 but failed.</p>
<p>Arkansas Initiative 1: Ban on Gay Couples Adopting Children<br />
This measure would prohibit unmarried &#8220;sexual partner(s)&#8221; from adopting children or from serving as foster parents. The measure specifies that the prohibition applies to both opposite-sex as well as same-sex couples.</p>
<p>California Proposition 8: Ban on Gay Marriage<br />
This measure would amend the state constitution to specify that only marriages between one man and one woman would be recognized as valid in the state. If passed, the measure would trump a May 2008 ruling by the California Supreme Court that legalized same-sex marriage.</p>
<p>Florida Amendment 2: Ban on Gay Marriage<br />
This measure would amend the state constitution to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman. In order to amend the Florida constitution, 60 percent of voters must vote in favor of the amendment.</p>
<p>ll of the above PASSED!</p>
<p>Now, although I do agree that gay unions should have the same exact rights as straight unions, I&#8217;m certainly not an activist and at the end of the day it doesn&#8217;t directly affect me if someone gay can&#8217;t marry some 18 year old twink. I&#8217;m not an Afro-American rights activist either.  That doesn&#8217;t mean I wouldn&#8217;t have something to say if some state tried to amend their constitution to keep Afro-Americans out of public restrooms. It seems to me that far too many people fail to see the parallels there, that some of the same people who voted to deny gays rights would be appalled if there were an initiative on the ballot to deny Afro-American or a woman&#8217;s rights.</p>
<p>Some people have asked me why I care,  My answer is why DON&#8217;T you care? Why don&#8217;t you care that state constitutions are being amended to restrict and deny rights? Why don&#8217;t you care that discrimination and bigotry is being written into law? Why don&#8217;t you care that our morality is being legislated? That dogma is becoming law? You know those &#8220;Middle-Easterners&#8221; everyone is so scared of? They&#8217;re big on legislating their religion too.</p>
<p>I think everyone should care about this, even if you hate homosexuals, even if you&#8217;re Fred Phelps, this is bad for all Americans. I&#8217;m not sure how state constitutions differ from the US constitution, but I was under the impression that the intent and purpose was to protect and grant rights, not revoke and deny rights. There are supposedly protections in the US Constitution where the majority can&#8217;t take away the rights of the minority. Not that it seems to matter anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2008/10/same-sex-marriage/#comment-45201</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh.  It looks like Florida&#039;s numbers are about the same as the last time California voted on this.  I&#039;m encouraged that the margin has at least shrunk over the last few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  It looks like Florida&#8217;s numbers are about the same as the last time California voted on this.  I&#8217;m encouraged that the margin has at least shrunk over the last few years.</p>
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		<title>By: West</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2008/10/same-sex-marriage/#comment-45198</link>
		<dc:creator>West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach it!

Ours went badly, too, by the way. (Amendment 2, I believe it was.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preach it!</p>
<p>Ours went badly, too, by the way. (Amendment 2, I believe it was.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2008/10/same-sex-marriage/#comment-45191</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  Sadly, it looks like it was too little, too late to help much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  Sadly, it looks like it was too little, too late to help much.</p>
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		<title>By: wayens</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2008/10/same-sex-marriage/#comment-45169</link>
		<dc:creator>wayens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, indeed.</description>
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		<title>By: Kaiser The Great</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2008/10/same-sex-marriage/#comment-45162</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser The Great</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!</p>
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