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		<title>By: jed</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-47896</link>
		<dc:creator>jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How the hell do people still lose their money on these scams? With all the warnings that are given out you&#039;d think that there couldn&#039;t possibly be anyone left out there that would be stupid enough to fall for them. I get them all the time and I reply back with the most vulgar statements I can create. This may not be the most mature behavior, but it makes me feel better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the hell do people still lose their money on these scams? With all the warnings that are given out you&#8217;d think that there couldn&#8217;t possibly be anyone left out there that would be stupid enough to fall for them. I get them all the time and I reply back with the most vulgar statements I can create. This may not be the most mature behavior, but it makes me feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Stephens</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-46841</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir / Madam

Please could you tell me what you know about &quot;me2everyone.co.&quot;

Many thanks and kind regards - Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir / Madam</p>
<p>Please could you tell me what you know about &#8220;me2everyone.co.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many thanks and kind regards &#8211; Richard</p>
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		<title>By: Genesis Slaughter</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-45324</link>
		<dc:creator>Genesis Slaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been flooded with these emails and almost went the distance a few years ago. The Barraster sent me documents/death cert. and all. However, I did not go through. Bells went off. I recently got one from China, Paris (a student)and one claiming to be the UN World Bank. The one today flagged me to google search the name and I got this. Glad I googled! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been flooded with these emails and almost went the distance a few years ago. The Barraster sent me documents/death cert. and all. However, I did not go through. Bells went off. I recently got one from China, Paris (a student)and one claiming to be the UN World Bank. The one today flagged me to google search the name and I got this. Glad I googled! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Letichia</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-43734</link>
		<dc:creator>Letichia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the 419&#039;s have been busier than ever. The newest Scam hit me this morning. It is promising you finance: Read for yourself:

I am Mr kelly brown (CEO) Capital Investment Solution Company, We give out loans to business people/individuals, local and international loans to all over the world for just 3% interest rate. 

Brown Finance is a leading online provider of finance. If you need a consolidation loan, we have many flexible plans on our lending panel to help you release the equity in your home. We can even help with business finance! 

What does Brown Loan Finance offer? 

Loans from £1000 - £500,000 for any purpose over any term from 1 - 25 years. 
Wide range of loan products. 
Quick Service. 
Friendly and approachable staff. 
Immediate decision in principle. 
We want to help. 

What Do I Do Next? 

Read about the application procedure. 
Simply submit a fully completed and accurate application form for an immediate in principle decision. 

On approval, we will process your application to completion in the shortest possible time. 

If you are interested in getting a loan from our company, you can contact us right away by email: brownloanfinance1@googlemail.com 

Regards, 
Mr Kelly Brown 
TEL: +447031861485 
Chief Executive Officer.

Luckily not all of our South African people are stupid! he he he!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the 419&#8242;s have been busier than ever. The newest Scam hit me this morning. It is promising you finance: Read for yourself:</p>
<p>I am Mr kelly brown (CEO) Capital Investment Solution Company, We give out loans to business people/individuals, local and international loans to all over the world for just 3% interest rate. </p>
<p>Brown Finance is a leading online provider of finance. If you need a consolidation loan, we have many flexible plans on our lending panel to help you release the equity in your home. We can even help with business finance! </p>
<p>What does Brown Loan Finance offer? </p>
<p>Loans from £1000 &#8211; £500,000 for any purpose over any term from 1 &#8211; 25 years.<br />
Wide range of loan products.<br />
Quick Service.<br />
Friendly and approachable staff.<br />
Immediate decision in principle.<br />
We want to help. </p>
<p>What Do I Do Next? </p>
<p>Read about the application procedure.<br />
Simply submit a fully completed and accurate application form for an immediate in principle decision. </p>
<p>On approval, we will process your application to completion in the shortest possible time. </p>
<p>If you are interested in getting a loan from our company, you can contact us right away by email: <a href="mailto:brownloanfinance1@googlemail.com">brownloanfinance1@googlemail.com</a> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Mr Kelly Brown<br />
TEL: +447031861485<br />
Chief Executive Officer.</p>
<p>Luckily not all of our South African people are stupid! he he he!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-43524</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a breakdown of the names and numbers being used in NOVA SCOTIA CANADA :  link 

http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/alert/2007-24.html

Correspondence accompanying the checks may contain the letterhead of “Ocean Ontario Lottery Gaming Corporation, 25 Capital Drive, Nepean, Ont. K2G OE9.” The letter alerts the recipient that he or she is the winner of an unclaimed prize sponsored by “North-American Sweepstakes Lottery.” Prior to negotiating the enclosed check, recipients are instructed to contact one of the following claim agents: Robert Bell at (902) 412-9354, Emily Lewis at (902) 412-9361, Michael Jones at (902) 412-9365, Carol Gates at (902) 412-9367, or Mark Spencer at (902) 412-8838 (all telephone numbers originate out of Nova Scotia). The letter further states that the enclosed check is to be used to pay for applicable taxes on the winnings. In addition, the writer explains that the tax amount is to be paid via Western Union or Moneygram. The correspondence is signed by Willis T. Marshall, Promotion Manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a breakdown of the names and numbers being used in NOVA SCOTIA CANADA :  link </p>
<p><a href="http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/alert/2007-24.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/alert/2007-24.html</a></p>
<p>Correspondence accompanying the checks may contain the letterhead of “Ocean Ontario Lottery Gaming Corporation, 25 Capital Drive, Nepean, Ont. K2G OE9.” The letter alerts the recipient that he or she is the winner of an unclaimed prize sponsored by “North-American Sweepstakes Lottery.” Prior to negotiating the enclosed check, recipients are instructed to contact one of the following claim agents: Robert Bell at (902) 412-9354, Emily Lewis at (902) 412-9361, Michael Jones at (902) 412-9365, Carol Gates at (902) 412-9367, or Mark Spencer at (902) 412-8838 (all telephone numbers originate out of Nova Scotia). The letter further states that the enclosed check is to be used to pay for applicable taxes on the winnings. In addition, the writer explains that the tax amount is to be paid via Western Union or Moneygram. The correspondence is signed by Willis T. Marshall, Promotion Manager.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-43522</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And finally, they mostly speak clear english, as if they were not brought up in Nigeria, yet they come in as refugees.  Now this is what they most likely do - they hear about a polite humble accommodating people such as Nova Scotia and abuse their kindness for stupidity - so they leave England, and the US travel back to Nigeria and apply from their for refugee status - they never suffered one day of oppression 

OR Has any one thought about this scenerio they could

get other fraudsters to do the paperwork for them and travel from Nigeria to US or Canada and exchange places and identities???

Please add any likely stories you may think of or have heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And finally, they mostly speak clear english, as if they were not brought up in Nigeria, yet they come in as refugees.  Now this is what they most likely do &#8211; they hear about a polite humble accommodating people such as Nova Scotia and abuse their kindness for stupidity &#8211; so they leave England, and the US travel back to Nigeria and apply from their for refugee status &#8211; they never suffered one day of oppression </p>
<p>OR Has any one thought about this scenerio they could</p>
<p>get other fraudsters to do the paperwork for them and travel from Nigeria to US or Canada and exchange places and identities???</p>
<p>Please add any likely stories you may think of or have heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-43521</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, yes Nova Scotia has the headquarters for the Nigerian scammers.  There is a huge community of nigerian refugees.  This is how the got to Nova Scotia. 
 
In early 1990&#039;s Nova Scotia took the tax payers dollars and ran a program to bring in refugees from Nigeria. This program was supposidily operated couple a wife from Nigeria and the husband from Belgium.  

The government of Nova Scotia supposidily paid this couple a handsome amount in administrative fees, from what we understand over 150,000 per family plus. In addition to housing, medical, clothing, eduction, food, transportation plus.  Now you answer this question - do you think that the Nigerians themselves slipped this couple a few dollars to buy sponship?  Think what this cost the people of Nova Scotia.

They all say they are doctors but can&#039;t spell their names.  Well mostly they say they are doctors, lawyers and have several degrees.  Once they are in Nova Scotia they tie up our courts with Civil rights lawsuits, costing us more. 

I don&#039;t know much I can write here but just recently they caught a banker by the name of SUNDAY EDOKPAYI who worked for one of the largest banks in Canada - CIBC - and us americans remember the Enron scandal - check the story out on the charges CIBC got for mishandling fraud.

Now this Mr. SUNDAY EDOKPAYI stole the customers accounts information with that bank and their VISA accounts and probably all other information including thier password, emails and sold it to people in Toronto who are also known scammers.  

Now if this had happened in the US, the customers would have been informed and there would have been a long sentence for this fraudster.  The Canadian system protects the banks so they will not inform customers not will the publish crucial details for the customers to defend themselves.

From what Mr. EDOKPAYI supposidily told the neighbours he has a brother in MD and one in Switzerland.  What it looks like, he is the same person with different names and different address and phone numbers.  He said he had an uncle in Texas and a brother in MD and cousins.  Do you believe a fraudster?  Except this slipped to the community.

In checking out Mr. Sunday Edockpayi&#039;s credential, he graducated from bible college. When the bible college was checked out, it is registered in the US but they are all from Nigeria.  No such college exists.  

Are you laughing yet - well think what you need to work for Canadian banks is graduation from fake colleges or fraudently copying Diplomas from acreddited colleges in the US.

So let me copy and past their local papers with this story about his arrest - this arrest did not come easily, we had to beg our members of parliments to help us.  Yet he will get a slap on his hand.  Please dont ask about the hardships the unsuspecting victims are suffering while he can afford the best defense and life as a whole.

HERE IS THE ARREST STORY and his picture was posted but it is pretty black and not clear. 

Former employee at CIBC charged with account tampering 
DARTMOUTH
The Canadian Press

A former employee at a CIBC branch in Dartmouth has been charged with tampering with customers&#039; accounts last year.

Sunday Edokpayi, 48, of Dartmouth was arraigned Tuesday on 32 charges and he returns to court in September.

Police allege that account information was passed on to people in the Toronto area, who then applied for and used CIBC Visa cards in the names of unsuspecting customers. Edokpayi faces 15 counts of trafficking in credit card data, 15 of fraudulently obtaining CIBC customer data, and single counts of conspiring with persons known to traffic in credit card data and defrauding the bank of more than $5,000.

The offences are alleged to have occurred between Jan. 1 and April 24, 2007.

Edokpayi is a native of Nigeria who now has Canadian citizenship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, yes Nova Scotia has the headquarters for the Nigerian scammers.  There is a huge community of nigerian refugees.  This is how the got to Nova Scotia. </p>
<p>In early 1990&#8242;s Nova Scotia took the tax payers dollars and ran a program to bring in refugees from Nigeria. This program was supposidily operated couple a wife from Nigeria and the husband from Belgium.  </p>
<p>The government of Nova Scotia supposidily paid this couple a handsome amount in administrative fees, from what we understand over 150,000 per family plus. In addition to housing, medical, clothing, eduction, food, transportation plus.  Now you answer this question &#8211; do you think that the Nigerians themselves slipped this couple a few dollars to buy sponship?  Think what this cost the people of Nova Scotia.</p>
<p>They all say they are doctors but can&#8217;t spell their names.  Well mostly they say they are doctors, lawyers and have several degrees.  Once they are in Nova Scotia they tie up our courts with Civil rights lawsuits, costing us more. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much I can write here but just recently they caught a banker by the name of SUNDAY EDOKPAYI who worked for one of the largest banks in Canada &#8211; CIBC &#8211; and us americans remember the Enron scandal &#8211; check the story out on the charges CIBC got for mishandling fraud.</p>
<p>Now this Mr. SUNDAY EDOKPAYI stole the customers accounts information with that bank and their VISA accounts and probably all other information including thier password, emails and sold it to people in Toronto who are also known scammers.  </p>
<p>Now if this had happened in the US, the customers would have been informed and there would have been a long sentence for this fraudster.  The Canadian system protects the banks so they will not inform customers not will the publish crucial details for the customers to defend themselves.</p>
<p>From what Mr. EDOKPAYI supposidily told the neighbours he has a brother in MD and one in Switzerland.  What it looks like, he is the same person with different names and different address and phone numbers.  He said he had an uncle in Texas and a brother in MD and cousins.  Do you believe a fraudster?  Except this slipped to the community.</p>
<p>In checking out Mr. Sunday Edockpayi&#8217;s credential, he graducated from bible college. When the bible college was checked out, it is registered in the US but they are all from Nigeria.  No such college exists.  </p>
<p>Are you laughing yet &#8211; well think what you need to work for Canadian banks is graduation from fake colleges or fraudently copying Diplomas from acreddited colleges in the US.</p>
<p>So let me copy and past their local papers with this story about his arrest &#8211; this arrest did not come easily, we had to beg our members of parliments to help us.  Yet he will get a slap on his hand.  Please dont ask about the hardships the unsuspecting victims are suffering while he can afford the best defense and life as a whole.</p>
<p>HERE IS THE ARREST STORY and his picture was posted but it is pretty black and not clear. </p>
<p>Former employee at CIBC charged with account tampering<br />
DARTMOUTH<br />
The Canadian Press</p>
<p>A former employee at a CIBC branch in Dartmouth has been charged with tampering with customers&#8217; accounts last year.</p>
<p>Sunday Edokpayi, 48, of Dartmouth was arraigned Tuesday on 32 charges and he returns to court in September.</p>
<p>Police allege that account information was passed on to people in the Toronto area, who then applied for and used CIBC Visa cards in the names of unsuspecting customers. Edokpayi faces 15 counts of trafficking in credit card data, 15 of fraudulently obtaining CIBC customer data, and single counts of conspiring with persons known to traffic in credit card data and defrauding the bank of more than $5,000.</p>
<p>The offences are alleged to have occurred between Jan. 1 and April 24, 2007.</p>
<p>Edokpayi is a native of Nigeria who now has Canadian citizenship.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-39391</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people who come here and read this stuff, and then still ask, &quot;Is this a scam?&quot;  WELL, DUH.  IF you have already cashed a check, and haven&#039;t sent off the money, DON&#039;T. Put it BACK IN THE BANK so that your whole world doesn&#039;t get fucked when the counterfeit check comes back.  DO IT NOW.

Go look at this http://www.419eater.com

Tons of good info there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people who come here and read this stuff, and then still ask, &#8220;Is this a scam?&#8221;  WELL, DUH.  IF you have already cashed a check, and haven&#8217;t sent off the money, DON&#8217;T. Put it BACK IN THE BANK so that your whole world doesn&#8217;t get fucked when the counterfeit check comes back.  DO IT NOW.</p>
<p>Go look at this <a href="http://www.419eater.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.419eater.com</a></p>
<p>Tons of good info there.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-35800</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanessa and all, sorry didn&#039;t get back sooner, been busy with my own moving plans. 
I didn&#039;t follow through as I didn&#039;t have the time or energy to waste on these assholes.
BOTTOM LINE folks, if it sounds too good to be true you can bet it&#039;s not!!! Don&#039;t get suckered into these scams no matter how good they sound you&#039;ll just end up very sorry in the end I&#039;m sure. Good luck and happy holidays!

One more thing, I&#039;ve been thinking that there ought to be a way to screw with these mother F-ing thieves, get a little revenge as it were. What if there were a way to quickly/easily submit their email addys to some &quot;service&quot; that would begin spamming them with tons of junk emails? Just a thought....

About 6 months ago I decided to go ahead and try to get one of the many &quot;free&quot; laptops you see advertised on many site - I set up another hotmail account to handle any spam and boy was I glad. Not only did I not get a free computer (duh ;?) but I got hundreds of spam emails every week.  Wish there were a way to utilize this &quot;service&quot; but going about it as I did was an arduous process that required filling out several forms/questionaires, about an hour of time wasted but a lesson learned, lol.
Tanstafl, no such thing as a free lunch ;?D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanessa and all, sorry didn&#8217;t get back sooner, been busy with my own moving plans.<br />
I didn&#8217;t follow through as I didn&#8217;t have the time or energy to waste on these assholes.<br />
BOTTOM LINE folks, if it sounds too good to be true you can bet it&#8217;s not!!! Don&#8217;t get suckered into these scams no matter how good they sound you&#8217;ll just end up very sorry in the end I&#8217;m sure. Good luck and happy holidays!</p>
<p>One more thing, I&#8217;ve been thinking that there ought to be a way to screw with these mother F-ing thieves, get a little revenge as it were. What if there were a way to quickly/easily submit their email addys to some &#8220;service&#8221; that would begin spamming them with tons of junk emails? Just a thought&#8230;.</p>
<p>About 6 months ago I decided to go ahead and try to get one of the many &#8220;free&#8221; laptops you see advertised on many site &#8211; I set up another hotmail account to handle any spam and boy was I glad. Not only did I not get a free computer (duh ;?) but I got hundreds of spam emails every week.  Wish there were a way to utilize this &#8220;service&#8221; but going about it as I did was an arduous process that required filling out several forms/questionaires, about an hour of time wasted but a lesson learned, lol.<br />
Tanstafl, no such thing as a free lunch ;?D</p>
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		<title>By: Den</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2006/07/419-artist/#comment-34921</link>
		<dc:creator>Den</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just found this site while looking for ISS links. Good site, good info.

I have been &quot;subscribing&quot; to many of these scams for about 10 years now in an attempt to uncover and expose these operators and inform the various agencies what the scams are, where they operate from and also to try and get convictions. There are (or were) several of us doing it, it costs us but we thought it was worth it in order to save people from the misery and hassles of being scammed, hopefully we succeeded in preventing a few rip offs. 

The scams we have seen involved all the ones mentioned above as well as the usual psychic and lottery scams too, but unfortunately we seem to be losing the battle because the scams are becoming far more sophisticated and more and more in number. Many of the original group have dropped out and I will be leaving at the end of the year because it is a drain on my time and money, plus there are a growing number of sites like this one doing a good job. Despite the promise of &quot;money back guarantees&quot; etc I have never managed a single cent returned to me (this doesn&#039;t worry me, I knew what I was doing) but please don&#039;t ever spend any money sent to you until you have WRITTEN confirmation from your own bank that any cheques you deposit have been cleared, because as some of you have already found out, you become liable for the amount of money you draw. I don&#039;t know if American banks will do it but you may be able to check whether or not the cheque is legitimate before you deposit it. As for the question of how these people can gain any knowledge of your financial details, well they probably can&#039;t unless they have knowledge of your banks operations or maybe a person they have planted or bribed in your bank (don&#039;t forget that all major banks operate world wide now and probably share a lot of information they shouldn&#039;t), but if you send them a cheque, even for a small sum such as $35 as in the ISS case, they then have, courtesy of the cheque you have sent them, what a cheque from your bank looks like, your bank name and location details, your bank account number, a good idea of the cheque number range you are using, and most importantly for them, your signature, all of which can be used by them for fraudulent purposes, so please think carefully before sending them anything and check your own bank statements very carefully and notify your bank immediately if anything seems wrong or suspicious, and NEVER EVER give your credit card details for anything that seems remotely suspect.

Anyway, there is a wealth of good advice given here already and you don&#039;t need me to preach any more, but if you are suspicious of anything just google &quot;scamwatch&quot; and you will find plenty of official government and financial institution websites who list virtually all past and current scams as soon as they appear (thanks in part to people like us around the world who provide them with information) and please, if you are scammed, go to the local fraud squad or whatever they call themselves in your area because they do try to catch these criminals, but unfortunately the convictions are few and far between due to international restrictions (most if not all scammers do not operate in their own country) and the scale of co-operation needed between various enforcement agencies and the speed at which these scammers can relocate their operations.

Good luck to you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just found this site while looking for ISS links. Good site, good info.</p>
<p>I have been &#8220;subscribing&#8221; to many of these scams for about 10 years now in an attempt to uncover and expose these operators and inform the various agencies what the scams are, where they operate from and also to try and get convictions. There are (or were) several of us doing it, it costs us but we thought it was worth it in order to save people from the misery and hassles of being scammed, hopefully we succeeded in preventing a few rip offs. </p>
<p>The scams we have seen involved all the ones mentioned above as well as the usual psychic and lottery scams too, but unfortunately we seem to be losing the battle because the scams are becoming far more sophisticated and more and more in number. Many of the original group have dropped out and I will be leaving at the end of the year because it is a drain on my time and money, plus there are a growing number of sites like this one doing a good job. Despite the promise of &#8220;money back guarantees&#8221; etc I have never managed a single cent returned to me (this doesn&#8217;t worry me, I knew what I was doing) but please don&#8217;t ever spend any money sent to you until you have WRITTEN confirmation from your own bank that any cheques you deposit have been cleared, because as some of you have already found out, you become liable for the amount of money you draw. I don&#8217;t know if American banks will do it but you may be able to check whether or not the cheque is legitimate before you deposit it. As for the question of how these people can gain any knowledge of your financial details, well they probably can&#8217;t unless they have knowledge of your banks operations or maybe a person they have planted or bribed in your bank (don&#8217;t forget that all major banks operate world wide now and probably share a lot of information they shouldn&#8217;t), but if you send them a cheque, even for a small sum such as $35 as in the ISS case, they then have, courtesy of the cheque you have sent them, what a cheque from your bank looks like, your bank name and location details, your bank account number, a good idea of the cheque number range you are using, and most importantly for them, your signature, all of which can be used by them for fraudulent purposes, so please think carefully before sending them anything and check your own bank statements very carefully and notify your bank immediately if anything seems wrong or suspicious, and NEVER EVER give your credit card details for anything that seems remotely suspect.</p>
<p>Anyway, there is a wealth of good advice given here already and you don&#8217;t need me to preach any more, but if you are suspicious of anything just google &#8220;scamwatch&#8221; and you will find plenty of official government and financial institution websites who list virtually all past and current scams as soon as they appear (thanks in part to people like us around the world who provide them with information) and please, if you are scammed, go to the local fraud squad or whatever they call themselves in your area because they do try to catch these criminals, but unfortunately the convictions are few and far between due to international restrictions (most if not all scammers do not operate in their own country) and the scale of co-operation needed between various enforcement agencies and the speed at which these scammers can relocate their operations.</p>
<p>Good luck to you all.</p>
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